The Andy Gibb Promise: Lance Romance on Bee Gees, Disco & Indie Power

On this episode of the BeatsToRapOn Podcast, Lance Romance tells the never-before-told story of how Andy Gibb changed his life – from skating rink crush music to a real-life encounter in LA, and a promise he’s still determined to keep.

We cover Lance’s journey from New York to Texas and back, how Motown, Bee Gees, Dolly Parton and Willie Nelson all shaped his ear, and why he became “the Bee Gees of rap” – a pop-leaning, musically trained rapper inside a rougher, sample-driven hip-hop world. Listen here or checkout the Podcast Video here https://youtu.be/jmdmXgXZLOg?si=GHBWKg7fu7ZLhonp

Lance breaks down:

• 🎵 Pop vs Motown swing – how Bee Gees, Andy Gibb and disco shaped his cadence and songwriting
• 🥁 From marching band to drum machines – xylophone, snare, tim-toms, then LinnDrum, SP-12, Casio, Korg and programming
• 🎤 Being ‘too polite’ for rap – why his Texas upbringing, clear diction and musicianship made him an outlier in NYC hip-hop
• 💿 The label move that blocked his album “Life of a Showgirl (R&B Mixes)” because it clashed with Taylor Swift’s title
• 🏛 Why indie platforms like BeatsToRapOn matter when majors can pause or reshape releases
• 🌟 Tower Records, Sunset Strip – meeting Andy Gibb during the Raising Hell Tour (Run DMC, LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, Houdini)
• ⚠️ The Long Beach Arena riot – why it was a blessing Andy never made it to that rap show
• 🌴 Miami, Def Jam tour & the promise – wanting Andy on his first album and promising to remake “I Wanna Be Your Everything” and “Shadow Dancing”
• 💔 Processing Andy’s death and why Lance still feels a responsibility to honor his legacy properly
• 💿 The Sensation EP – a Studio-54-flavored disco EP featuring Bee Gees/Donna Summer influence, planned for a major-label release
• 🎥 The tribute vision – shooting videos for “I Wanna Be Your Everything” and “Shadow Dancing” in Australia with Andy’s daughter involved creatively
• 🎄 What’s next – the “Lance Romance: 50 Albums, One Show Girl” Tour (2026) and his house-meets-rap holiday project Christmas on Ice

This episode is a love letter to disco, Bee Gees, Andy Gibb, band kids and indie creators who refuse to play by the traditional rules.

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Transcript

BeatToRapOn (00:00)
All right. So we are back again with the famous Lance romance. are super excited about this. There's been so much happening, you know, since your last podcast with us, you've changed the album title from life of a show girl to simply show girl, you know, we're super what, what, what prompted that shift?

LANCE (00:15)
Yes.

Well, so I made the R &B mixes of Taylor Swift's album, The Life of a Showgirl. They both were supposed to drop at the same time, which was October 3rd on a Friday. Of course, Taylor dropped. She sold 4 million copies in one week. ⁓ And because I had the same title and the same song,

titles as well as the album title, except for my album title had R &B mixes at the end, the life of a showgirl R &B mixes. Universal Records, which is the head distributor of her label Republic Records, ⁓ did a political move to CD Baby, which is my distributor, to pause my release because

They wanted to make sure that there weren't going to be anybody confused on buying my album and not hers. Now she's big, big Taylor Swift. even though I'm just Lance Romance in the corporate world, it only takes a few things for someone to go viral for the algorithms to switch.

BeatToRapOn (01:20)
⁓

LANCE (01:35)
And they didn't want anybody going online and just Googling the life of a showgirl and buy Lance's record instead of Taylor's record. So they did they what they do and blocked me from releasing it until three weeks later. And then when I had to release it, they said, you can't release the same title. So I just dropped it.

BeatToRapOn (01:50)
⁓

What?

LANCE (01:59)
Yeah. And that's against the law technically, but I've been in the industry 40 years. Yeah. So I just went along with it because I know what it is, is that they, meaning the industry wants me to sign to them as to a major label. I've been in music publishing with Sony and EMI. They know I know the game, but I haven't signed to being on the majors and that irritates them. So it's kind of like.

BeatToRapOn (02:02)
What?

LANCE (02:26)
If you were Michael Jordan, I'm not saying I'm Michael Jordan, and you didn't want to play in the league, they'd be like, why wouldn't you want to play in the league? Right? You're making good music. You know what to do. Just join us. And I'm like, nah, I'm good. Just join. I'm like, nah, I'm going to stay indie. So they're like, OK. So I'm like, all right. So they said, you stay indie. You're not going to release your, we're going to hold your record for three weeks.

BeatToRapOn (02:38)
Just join.

That's power baby, that's power right there.

Ugh.

LANCE (02:51)
And that's what they did. So anyway, fast forward. ⁓ I'm here. I released it, but the beauty of what beats did with beats to rap on did was you interviewed me two days after the actual release. And my, your podcast says life of a show girl, Lance romance, Taylor Swift, all the right things. So

based on what you did, you semen it my reputation of truth online and they can never erase it because they can't control you. So you validated, You gave me a proof where, you know, I had to change the show girl, but when I did beats,

BeatToRapOn (03:31)
Holy shit!

LANCE (03:46)
to rap on, it was life of a showgirl R &B mixes. that you can never erase it. The internet, it's there. So it's there. So I'm glad that you did the interview. I'm glad we did it. And I'm glad that you allowed me to be on your platform, which the industry can't control, which is a beauty of why though, like before we had the business conversation about expanding,

BeatToRapOn (03:49)
Yeah, that's it.

It's there, baby. Yep.

LANCE (04:14)
This is exactly why Beats to Rap on these platforms are important so they don't have to conform to the traditional corporate way of the industry. So this is really important because you'll, this might go down in college or universities that

BeatToRapOn (04:28)
Love that baby. I love that.

LANCE (04:40)
You know, the industry stopped this guy with the same title because he didn't want to join forces and they blocked him, but they knew they couldn't really block him forever, but they blocked him for three weeks and told him he had to change the title of the album. Yeah. Yeah. So this is like history because one day people are going to say, wow,

BeatToRapOn (04:58)
That's crazy. That's crazy. Man, I'm so glad we're here doing this. Love that.

LANCE (05:07)
The industry has that much. You know what? It was a good and bad thing. At first I was a little, I was a little bitter because the momentum of the first week of your sales is the importance of the, release of your record, right? That first week. look, I'm not going to do what Taylor did 4 million, but let's just say I did 40,000. 40,000 is not 4 million.

But 40,000 times $10 is 400 grand, right? So that's still money, right? If I just sold 40 grand, not 4 million, not even 50,000, just 40,000, right? If I sold just 1%, you know I mean? I'm still making 400 grand, but they stopped it.

BeatToRapOn (05:37)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

LANCE (05:57)
Just stop it. One percent, just one. Because there's enough curious people that would say, well, what does that version sound like of Taylor's album?

BeatToRapOn (06:07)
so it sounds like what I have to do then is we have to ⁓ get a blog, another blog post going with life of a show girl remix by Lance Romance.

LANCE (06:15)
Yeah. Yeah. A whole nother, a whole nother thing, but I'm so happy.

Yeah. I'm, I'm so happy that I got to be on beats to rap on with you and, and it, it seemed in it that I did it first, you know? So there you have it. Yes. So thank you very much.

BeatToRapOn (06:39)
Thank you.

LANCE (06:42)
And the beauty of it is I got the email, you know how they say in the industry, the receipts. I got the email. I couldn't even believe they sent me an email. It says, you're we can't release this record because it's the same title of Taylor Swift. I'm like, wow. Like the crazy part is. If they thought I was that important, that means

BeatToRapOn (06:49)
Right.

LANCE (07:07)
they're watching and they know there's potential. Cause if they didn't care, that would have never happened.

BeatToRapOn (07:16)
You

LANCE (07:16)
Right? I'm just little last romance, you know, line them up. Let's go.

BeatToRapOn (07:17)
Let's light them up. Let's light them up, baby. Let's light them up.

man, I'd love to dig into kind of some more music foundation stuff, like if you're cool with that. So New York to Texas and back, right? So you were born in New York, but raised in Texas. Walk us through the music that shaped you during those formative years.

LANCE (07:29)
Okay, let's do it. Yes.

Yes.

Right, so when I left New York, was probably, I was going into the fourth grade, so that was maybe like 1976. Right, so in New York, they were playing the Jackson Five. You know, Michael Jackson and his brothers, right? Just giving you the landscaping of Motown, right?

BeatToRapOn (08:01)
So good.

LANCE (08:01)
The Motown sound, you know, the Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Temptations, know, Diana Ross, the Supremes, Motown. When I got to Texas, it was the Bee Gees. Do you understand? They were not Texas, completely different. It was the Bee Gees. It was Willie.

BeatToRapOn (08:06)
Yeah, so good.

Right. Right. Yeah, that's like completely different.

Yeah, that's cool.

LANCE (08:28)
Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton. It was, you know, a country band called Alabama. Yeah, it was, you know, Barry Manilow.

BeatToRapOn (08:30)
Yep. Yep.

Yeah, it's completely different, right?

Yeah.

LANCE (08:45)
You know, ⁓ Frank Sinatra, was more very, you know, ⁓ back then it was one chart, Elton John, know, very, very Elton-ish, ⁓ Beatles, you know, the radio stations, Rolling Stones, they had a black station that used to go off the air. It only stayed on nine to five.

BeatToRapOn (08:49)
Yep.

LANCE (09:12)
And I think, yeah, and it was a very, it was an AM station. The frequency wasn't even that strong. And by time you get out of school at three, I had football practice or basketball practice or baseball practice. By time we get home, it's already past five. We wouldn't be able to hear it. So they used, they have this radio show. You know, this radio show, it used to be called Casey Kasem. And I think Dick Clark,

BeatToRapOn (09:38)
Yeah, right.

LANCE (09:39)
Dick Clark took over and they had another guy called Wolfman Jack, right? And it was like top, yeah, Wolfman Jack, KC Kacem, Dick Clark, top 40 radio. And it was whatever the top 40 white, white, white tunes were. You know, that's what it was. So I grew up listening to whatever that top 40 was. So if it was the Bee Gees, the Beatles,

BeatToRapOn (09:43)
Yeah, these are big people.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yep.

Right.

LANCE (10:05)
You know, Dolly Parton, Alabama, Willie Nelson, you know, any of that. And if they let any black music come in, it would have been something like a Lionel Richie, hello. Do you understand what I mean? It was a crossover brother, you know?

BeatToRapOn (10:09)
Yeah.

Okay, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

It's not like

a proper hip hop or rap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

LANCE (10:33)
Nah, they didn't even want to play R &B. Remember

MTV didn't even want to play Michael Jackson thriller. He's Michael Jackson. you know, so that's, anyway, that, so when I went to the skating rinks, cause back in the day, you know, the kids, we would go to the skating rink, the bowling alley and ⁓

BeatToRapOn (10:44)
Yeah, that was pretty fucked up back then.

Yeah.

LANCE (11:01)
My first time of falling, I don't wanna say falling in love, but having a crush was to I Wanna Be Your Everything by Andy Gibb.

BeatToRapOn (11:10)
Okay. Yeah.

LANCE (11:10)
He had Andy Gibb,

I wanna be your everything and shadow dancing, you know? So, yeah, so that's so, I was shaped more of an artist, me being an artist, my cadence, my flow coming from Texas to New York in the world of rap, they considered me very white bread. Do you understand?

BeatToRapOn (11:14)
Right. Very nice.

Yep.

Right.

LANCE (11:37)
because

my texture was very light, very polite, very articulate. My pronunciation was clear. I didn't talk in a rap slang or ebony format of rhythm. I was like, the girl walked to the store. And then in hip hop, they'll be like,

BeatToRapOn (11:43)
⁓ okay.

Right.

Right.

LANCE (12:04)
The girl was chilling and I wasn't talking. I didn't have slang in my cadence because that's not who I was and I didn't want to fake it. I didn't want to be yo, yo, yo. And that's not how I was raised. I grew up in Texas. Yes, ma'am. No, sir. Excuse me. Thank you. Can I, may I? know, mannerism, know, chivalry.

BeatToRapOn (12:06)
Yeah, yeah, yeah

Okay.

Yeah.

LANCE (12:31)
It wasn't like that for rappers. I, in the eyes of hip hop, if I wasn't a good producer, I probably wouldn't have got in because I was considered corny, right? I was corny because I didn't have a struggled story. I didn't come from the projects. I didn't have a hard time. I wasn't a silver spoon kid.

BeatToRapOn (12:44)
Right. Wow. Right. Yeah.

Right.

LANCE (12:58)
but I always had a spoon. So it was very different for me because of my upbringing. even till today with having 50 albums, maybe two or three of them might sound slangish, but that's not who I am. So I always kept it real and I was lucky enough to stay in it.

BeatToRapOn (13:01)
Yeah ⁓

Yeah.

Yeah.

LANCE (13:24)
That's the music I grew up, probably listening more to the Bee Gees than the Jacksons. You know, so that's what it is.

BeatToRapOn (13:30)
Yeah, nice. All right.

So like, how did that duality influence how you hear and kind of create music today?

LANCE (13:39)
I think in the essence, let's say hip hop, the Sugarhill Gang sampled Now Rogers group Sheik as one of the first disco records that they rapped on, That record, the Sugarhill Gang record is an actual disco record that they looped and that's from the group Sheik, right? And the record Good Times, you know, those are the records.

BeatToRapOn (13:53)
Yeah, right, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

LANCE (14:07)
So while the New Yorkers were sampling R &B disco.

I still wanted to sample disco, but it wasn't from a R &B group. It was from the Bee Gees. So my ear, right? So my ear was like, you guys want to sample, you know, ⁓ Donner Summers.

BeatToRapOn (14:20)
Yeah. That is crazy good. Yeah.

Right. Yep.

LANCE (14:34)
I want to sample Andy Gibb. It's still disco, but my ear felt comfortable with what I learned from the skating rink. It's still disco, right? I'm still on track, right? But it was just a different flow. So it did influence me because it made me want to create pop music from the beginning. You understand?

BeatToRapOn (14:37)
Yeah.

It's different. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

That's right. Oh,

yeah, yeah.

LANCE (15:00)
That

made me feel like that's a pop artist, the Bee Gees were pop. So my music tend to, when people ask me, why do you like Taylor Swift? And why do you like Justin Bieber? Why do you like, you know, Ariana Grande and Justin Timberlake and, you know, Miley Cyrus and, you know, ⁓ even Sabrina Carpenter. I just like pop music because that's what I grew up liking.

BeatToRapOn (15:05)
Yeah

LANCE (15:28)
Do you understand? So I like pop music. That's my ear was tuned to a certain melody, a chord, a lyrical arrangement that was different than listening to Motown, right?

BeatToRapOn (15:29)
Yeah.

Yeah, I was going to say

like, like your flow and cadence have a distinctive musicality that kind of translates across all of the genres, you know. you know, how did we kind of talked about how you started developing this versatility, but let's, break it down. I'd love to break it down, you know, so let's maybe start with your background and band experience. Let's start there.

LANCE (15:49)
Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Right, yeah, so when you go to schools in Texas, you have to take ⁓ a ⁓ musical course, or you could take what they consider like a language, like so Spanish or band, you know, and you have to play a sport. So I got into band, and when you are in band,

BeatToRapOn (16:25)
Right. Yep.

LANCE (16:31)
You are around other kids still learning those instruments. You play the wind instrument, right? You a flute?

BeatToRapOn (16:39)
Yeah, no, violin. Yep. Yep, strings.

LANCE (16:41)
Violin, okay, so your string so if strings

so in in in band You have to wait your turn to play So you could actually learn the chords so or the so you got to hear the trumpets the horn the flute the clarinet the alto sax the tenor sax the trombone the so you learn

BeatToRapOn (16:51)
Yep. Yep.

LANCE (17:07)
A, G, flat, F sharp automatically, because you're sitting in class while this guy is learning this on the trumpet. So your ears are now being trained as a musician. When I got to New York to start producing, 99.9 % of the rappers never touched an instrument. Do you understand?

BeatToRapOn (17:31)
Yeah, well, holy yeah,

LANCE (17:34)
I'm going in the studio

BeatToRapOn (17:34)
that's...

LANCE (17:37)
knowing all these instruments. They're like, what are you talking about? We just scratch it up.

BeatToRapOn (17:39)
Yeah, the notes, the name of the notes

where they sit, the transcripts, like the whole thing.

LANCE (17:45)
Do you understand?

And I'm in band since fifth grade, fifth grade, sixth grade, middle school is when you start sixth grade. So seventh, eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th, 12th, I'm in marching band. I worked my way up from, in the first instrument I learned to play is a xylophone.

BeatToRapOn (17:50)
Yeah.

well. Yeah.

Okay.

I was going to say, because that flows into my next question, your approach to percussion and rhythm. ⁓

LANCE (18:15)
Right. So I started,

yeah, so I started with the xylophone. I went from the xylophone to the bass drum. Then I became a snare drummer. Then I went to the Tim Toms, the three, the three. And basically my ear was rhythm first. And that's how.

BeatToRapOn (18:20)
Yeah.

yeah.

Nice. Yep.

LANCE (18:38)
it led me to want to create, but even creating with rhythm, I'm still hearing instruments which really didn't have a foundation in early hip hop. It was just a sample, a loop. There wasn't anyone playing. It wasn't like the band that they have now called The Roots, you know, that played behind Jimmy Fallon, you know? There wasn't...

BeatToRapOn (18:50)
Right.

yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

LANCE (19:04)
It wasn't that, was just the DJ. know, Grandmaster Flash, know, Wizard Door, Theodore, Cool Herc, Spinning the Records, know, Jazzy J, you know, those early pioneers, then later, Bruce E. B. and Lovebust, Starsky, know, hip hop. There was no one talking about what key is that, what note is that, what instrument is. So...

BeatToRapOn (19:06)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

spinning. ⁓

LANCE (19:31)
listening to pop music growing up and learning instruments, I'm a totally different breed of a rapper coming back to New York City. I'm a musician.

BeatToRapOn (19:39)
Well, you're a musician. Yeah. Like, like

you're a musician. dig into more about the, your approach to percussion and rhythm.

LANCE (19:47)
Yeah, I just think when when we got when I got back to New York and going into the recording studios. I realized that. No one was going to actually let me play the drums on a record, so we had this drum machine called the Lin drum machine. So I had to learn how to program. Then you had this Casio keyboard by the company called Casio.

So I was forced to learn how to program because no one wanted me to play instruments.

BeatToRapOn (20:19)
Why? Sorry to ask a dumb question, but like, yeah.

LANCE (20:20)
And that's because

it was cheaper to steal a loop with everything already mastered on the good part of the record than for me to try to go in there and play it. Because then back then studio time was expensive. So if it took me four hours to play these instruments, it might only took a DJ 30 minutes to find the loop.

BeatToRapOn (20:27)
Okay.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, okay.

yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Find a loop. Yeah,

okay.

LANCE (20:47)
Right? So I'm like, okay, me playing instruments is not going to work. I got to learn the drum machine and the SB 12 and the Lindrum and the Casio and the Korg. I had to learn, you know, I wasn't playing like Stevie Wonder, but you had to learn how to play enough to make a song, you know?

BeatToRapOn (21:07)
You would have brought such a different perspective to those machines because you're coming in hot with huge amounts of classically trained music experience. So how was that? Did you pick it up quickly? Was it like a duck to water? Tell us about that.

LANCE (21:14)
Mmm.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think that when it was, it limit me to only do what the machine could do. So even if I heard a string part, you would have to play the string through the keyboard with the drum machine, but it wasn't what I knew it should sound like if somebody actually played. Do you understand? So I had to adapt to

BeatToRapOn (21:50)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

LANCE (21:56)
the concept of just, hate to use this term, but dumbing it down. Right? I had to just, yeah. I had just nothing that I can do. It's just, you know, I couldn't go to, yeah. So my music always had a pop feel because that's what I wanted, but it was never as hard as a public enemy record.

BeatToRapOn (21:57)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, because you're constrained. Yeah, yeah.

That would have sucked.

Yeah.

Yeah, okay. Yeah.

LANCE (22:20)
or

run DMC record or even behind you a Naughty by Nature record. It was because I didn't feel it to be that hard, you know, but ⁓ it was a learning experience. And from doing that, I got into music publishing and EMI then Sony. So yeah, so that's how I got into the industry by being a producer technically before being a rapper.

BeatToRapOn (22:25)
Yeah.

LANCE (22:47)
You know.

BeatToRapOn (22:48)
Yeah. And so like how, how, how does cadence functions in your, in your writing? Like walk us through all of that.

LANCE (22:57)
Yeah, I think the cadence is, ⁓ where Motown had a rhythm cadence of swing. So Motown had a one and a two and a three and a four, one and a two and a three and a four, right? That's the, that's a Motown is swinging. So you could dance. That's the swing. So rappers learned how to rap, catch me maxing, cooling and relaxing, staying in style, wearing hot fashion.

Start the clapping, finger snapping, the music's pumping. I keep on rapping. I'm on the mic tonight in sight, no fight, so type of lights, so let's get hype, right? That's the right... So that was the cadence, because it was swinging. It had that James Brown, the James Brown feel, Where the pop music, the Bee Gees, using that as an example,

BeatToRapOn (23:35)
Hahaha

Yeah.

Love that, yeah.

Yeah.

LANCE (23:51)
The

swing wasn't that swinging, but it was still rhythmic. So by time I started to write pop, I wasn't writing like what I just showed you. That was swing, calling it swing writing when things are like swinging, like they go, hey, that's groovy, man, it's swinging. You know, that's what they used to call it back in the day, right? I wasn't writing like that, because that wasn't my personality. I would write, my name is Lance Romance. So I would write,

BeatToRapOn (24:09)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

LANCE (24:19)
more like the Bee Gees of rap. So I would write, in the middle of the night when you're feeling uptight, Lance Romance will make you feel all right. There's no need to tease. I'm only here to please, to keep your soul in mind and body at ease. I was smooth, right? that's, I, pop made me smooth cause that's all I heard growing up in Texas.

BeatToRapOn (24:29)
Yeah.

Nice. Yeah. Nice.

Yeah.

LANCE (24:46)
I

didn't get swing until I came back to New York.

BeatToRapOn (24:51)
break that down a little bit more in terms of how you use breaks and transitions.

LANCE (24:57)
Right? So breaks.

Yeah. So the, the, the music that was considered soul music always had a part which was appealing to where people could dance. Right? So in, in R and B music back then, it was that they call the break, right? And the break is where you felt you can get loose or you could express yourself a little bit more.

BeatToRapOn (25:08)
Yeah.

LANCE (25:21)
If you were a musician, you know you can get loose during that little break. Or if you were a dancer, you could really show your style or your flair. Or if you was a rap, if you were, right? Because the break made you feel like that's your solo moment.

BeatToRapOn (25:26)
Yeah, yeah.

The brakes are awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

That's your bit. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep.

LANCE (25:43)
That's your bit, right? So now

that's the soul part. In pop music, which we call the white traditional, they weren't really making the break, but they were still creating the bridge. And the bridge was another melody that took the music to a higher level before it went back to the chorus, right?

BeatToRapOn (25:58)
Uh-huh. Got it.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

LANCE (26:09)
It's the bridge. They didn't

call it the break. The black music was the break. And then the white music was more the bridge. The break, the bridge. that's about, yeah. But that is about as far as I can, you know, I'm breaking it down so that anyone that's listening, they're gonna realize, yeah, that makes sense. When people go back to listen to this conversation, they'll be like, yeah.

BeatToRapOn (26:17)
the bridge. Same thing.

Yeah, Yep.

LANCE (26:36)
They'll listen to some old, you know, black music Motown or jazz, you know, Miles Davis, know, you know, Lionel Hampton, whoever. And they'll realize Quincy Jones was, you know, the master. What Quincy did was he knew how to bridge the gap between a break and a bridge. That's what made Quincy Jones know how to write those hits for Michael Jackson. Quincy knew how to write the records for The Wiz.

BeatToRapOn (26:43)
Yeah.

So good.

LANCE (27:02)
because Quincy was a musician and a conductor and a composer. So Quincy knew how to play both sides. He knew how to go make a Frank Sinatra record and then turn around and go make some Motown music. So that's why Quincy Jones stood out, because he knew how to make a bridge sound like a break and how to make a break sound like a bridge. Yeah.

BeatToRapOn (27:06)
Yeah.

Ridge.

LANCE (27:28)
Quincy Jones is the genius, you know? Yes.

BeatToRapOn (27:29)
That's crazy. Let's flip and talk about the sensation EP. So ⁓ you produced but unreleased EP, sensation. Let's talk about what genre we're talking about here and how does it showcase your range?

LANCE (27:37)
Yes.

Yes.

Well, the Sensation EP, which I did a record that was released, you can make a note of this, it was called Love for Ukraine. It was during the war, right? Ukraine had the war and I made a record to support Ukraine during that time and that music was basically disco.

BeatToRapOn (28:05)
Yeah.

LANCE (28:14)
dance more disco in that sound. So the Sensation is really part two, except for ⁓ the Sensation features a few records by the Bee Gees and Donna Summer, very, very influential, Love to Love You Baby, Shadow Dancing by Andy Gibb. ⁓ And I wanted to feature these records.

BeatToRapOn (28:30)
Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

LANCE (28:41)
in a creative way to show my cadence, you know? ⁓ But I couldn't release it independently. ⁓ So I had to wait for the majors. So I will be releasing this on the major because I can't get it released ⁓ if I don't release it through the majors. So that's why I had to wait, but it's done.

but I'm gonna probably work with another producer that a lot of people are familiar with named Benny Blanco. Benny Blanco is the husband of Selena Gomez.

BeatToRapOn (29:17)
some crazy shit.

LANCE (29:19)
Yeah,

yeah, so, so Selena grew up in the same little town I grew up in Texas called Grand Prairie and Grand Prairie. So, and then Benny, yeah. And so Benny has been around the industry for years. So, you I, I, you know, you bump into Benny or, you know, like me, Pharrell and Timberland came from EMI or Sony.

BeatToRapOn (29:28)
No.

What are the odds?

Yeah.

LANCE (29:45)
You so you bump into people in the studios, right? And I just think that ⁓ in order for these records from Sensation to get the proper push, I'm forced to be on a major level, you know, a ⁓ major label in order for people to hear the quality of these.

BeatToRapOn (29:49)
Yeah, yeah.

LANCE (30:13)
songs like the Bee Gees or Donna Summer and other records that were familiar with Studio 54, which was like a big disco era club, huge. So this album sounds, this EP is very Studio 54. That's the best way that I could actually...

BeatToRapOn (30:26)
Huge. Yeah.

LANCE (30:38)
Express it if people didn't know disco. It's not house music. It's disco It is a difference is this disco and if if I get to work with Benny Blanco Benny knows how to really polish music with he has his track record is tremendous and It would be the first time of me Allowing someone to really produce me

BeatToRapOn (30:43)
Yeah, it's disco.

LANCE (31:04)
because I'm always been my producer, but if I really want to go to another level as an artist, I have to merge with people that are making hits on the charts today. So Benny would know, he wouldn't know how to take what I do and take it to the next level and really represent, you know, the Gibb brothers well. ⁓

BeatToRapOn (31:16)
day. Yeah.

And you've had some crazy

encounters with them, right? So let's talk a little bit like you met Andy Gibb had the encounter. mean, just meeting that person is mind blowing, right? So like how did, how did meeting him and all that interaction, ⁓ influence your approach to music, particularly, you know, as you're now starting to explore like disco sounds.

LANCE (31:34)
Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Okay. So for all the disco lovers out there, question is, do you know a couple of Andy Gibbs hit records that were produced by his brothers?

BeatToRapOn (32:03)
Hell yeah! wannabe or everything that was a big one and shadow dancing just one of my favorites

LANCE (32:05)
Okay?

Yeah, absolutely.

Great. So I took those two records and put them on my new album, the EP Sensation. And it was because I made a promise. This is the first time I'm ever saying this. I made a promise to Andy before he passed away.

BeatToRapOn (32:29)
Wow, yeah.

LANCE (32:30)
Now, how did I meet Andy? I'm on tour on the tour called the Raising Hell Tour with Run DMC, LL Cool J, the Beastie Boys, and I dance with a group called Houdini. 1986, the Raising Hell Tour. I'm only two years out of high school. I graduated in 84. Two years later,

BeatToRapOn (32:51)
So cool.

LANCE (32:52)
I'm in the midst of this. get to Hollywood. There used to be a store. There used to be a store where even artists went to get records called Tower Records. Tower Records, you can Google it, was on Sunset Strip. Right? So even famous people went there to get records because it was just the hot spot. I meet...

BeatToRapOn (32:55)
Yeah.

LANCE (33:17)
I see Andy!

I'm with all the rappers. We're all at Tower Records just getting new stuff, know, DJs, you know. And I go, ⁓ I tell my friends, wow, that's Andy Gibb. They're like, who's that? I'm like, that's the younger brother from the Bee Gees. But they were like, but he's not the Bee Gees. I'm like, yeah, but he's the younger brother. Now, you gotta remember.

BeatToRapOn (33:32)
Yeah, yeah.

LANCE (33:38)
Those guys are from New York. They probably never watched when he was on top of the pops or solid gold. Those shows that I used to see in Texas, right? They were, they were probably watching. They were, they were watching soul train. You understand? They were watching that maybe, maybe American bandstand, you know, maybe they might've caught him anyway.

BeatToRapOn (33:49)
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't have seen that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

LANCE (34:05)
I went up to him and I said, Hey, what's up Andy? I'm Lance. I'm dancer for the group Houdini. And I said, I grew up skating to your record and it was my first time I had a crush. And I was like, I would love to make that record over. And he was like, yeah, but you're, you're, you're rap and hip hop. would, I'm like, yeah, but I, I like your music. I would love to make it over.

And he said, I don't think that would work because it's not so popular for that genre. Do you understand? And I'm like, yeah, but I like it. You know, like I like it. I don't care what my friend's like. And then he says, where are you from, mate? Because he's Australian, right? He's Australian. So I didn't really know where he was from, but he had your accent.

BeatToRapOn (34:36)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah

Yeah.

Yeah.

LANCE (34:55)
And I said, I'm from Texas. And

then I said, I was born in New York, raised in Texas. I said, we got a concert tonight in Long Beach Arena. I would love to give you some passes to show up. Make a long story short. I gave him my pass, my, you know, back in the day, you have this a laminate and you have it like on your neck. I gave him mine. I gave him mine to say, Hey,

BeatToRapOn (35:15)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

wow.

LANCE (35:23)
because I didn't know how he would get tickets. Do you understand? How would he get in? And if people really don't know Andy Gitt, you know what I mean? So I gave him my, said, hey, keep this. He was laughing at me. Back then he was dating this girl that was with him, Victoria Principal.

BeatToRapOn (35:26)
get in. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah right.

LANCE (35:44)
Very pretty girl. You know, very pretty girl. ⁓ So to make a long story short, we went to go do the concert. He didn't show up. Thank God. You know why? Google it. 1986 Long Beach Arena. It was a riot. The Bloods against the Crips. was a gang fight and in the middle of the concert.

I was like, thank God this guy didn't show up. Can you imagine him going to this first rap concert and it's gang related.

BeatToRapOn (36:16)
Holy crap it was. Look at that. It's like a massive riot. ⁓ shit. That would have been catastrophic. Totally catastrophic.

LANCE (36:19)
Yeah, 19... Massive riot. Do you understand?

Can you imagine? Can you?

So can you imagine this could have happened? Can you imagine I give him my laminate and imagine him being the proper white boy? If he would have got something happened, I would have felt terrible that do you understand? So thank God he didn't make it because Long Beach is a little further out than Hollywood,

BeatToRapOn (36:37)
So he is.

LANCE (36:48)
That would have been the worst imagine the first rap concert he goes to it's a riot

BeatToRapOn (36:54)
⁓ shit.

That was

a bit of divine intervention.

LANCE (37:02)
Thank God, yes.

So anyway, I meet up with him the next day for lunch, because we had to stay in LA because of the riots. We didn't get to fly out. So we stayed. I remember we stayed in LA. ⁓ I hooked back up with him. We went to lunch ⁓ in the valley ⁓ near Universal Studios. Anyway, he told me he lived in Miami.

I eventually go see him within the next six to eight months, something like that in Miami. We were on the Def Jam tour at that point. And that tour was headlined by LL Cool J, Houdini, a group called Eric B and Rakim, in case a lot of people not familiar with Rakim is one of the best MCs in the history of music. And ⁓ a rapper that a lot of people didn't know at the time called Will Smith.

The Fresh Prince, know, DJ Jazzy Jeff and Will Smith. So we're on the tour called the Def Jam Tour, like the record label Def Jam. And Will Smith wasn't on Def Jam, but the tour was called Def Jam, because it was LL Cool J's tour, and he was on Def Jam. So anyway, ⁓ in the middle of the tour, I wind up leaving. I wind up leaving the group Houdini as a dancer, because I wanted to focus on my music.

Right? So I was in the middle of making my album called Stop and Listen, I wanted to get Andy on my first album.

BeatToRapOn (38:32)
⁓ yep.

LANCE (38:33)
But back then, it wasn't easy to get a pop artist sample cleared the record. Do you understand? The permission, right? It was a process. So I told them, said, look, I'm gonna finish my album. I said, but one day I'm gonna redo these records. This is in 87.

BeatToRapOn (38:41)
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, well.

LANCE (38:55)
The next year.

88 going into 89 or 88 he passed away the drug overdose or something like that It was I was devastated. I was devastated I was dev and you got to understand

BeatToRapOn (39:03)
Yeah, yeah, I think everyone was devastated.

LANCE (39:10)
because I skated to his music and liked him as a kid and to grow up liking him and seeing him get taller and bigger and more famous and then bumping into him as I got older to have a conversation. Do you understand? So I never got to tell the story because

BeatToRapOn (39:25)
That would have been crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

LANCE (39:32)
in this new world we live in, no one would care. But I think it would be nice for people to understand that he was a good guy, even though the demons of the entertainment, you know, the drugs or whatever happened, I don't know per se the details, but when I went to see him in Florida, he wasn't doing well.

But I was only a dancer. I didn't really have money like that. Like I couldn't really do anything to help him. Do you understand what I mean? I wasn't financially able to do any, and he didn't ask for anything, but I wish I could have. Do you understand? But you're talking 86, 87. It's a different world out there. That's a whole different world, you know?

BeatToRapOn (40:02)
Yeah, yep.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard.

It's a totally different world. Yeah.

LANCE (40:22)
So 87, we meet in Florida and I couldn't get them on my record, Stop and Listen, which is my first album, Lance Romance, Stop and Listen. And I never told anyone what I was trying to do because I didn't want anyone to laugh at me on why would you want that on your first album? You know what mean? Rap was a little harder. Why would I want that style of pop? But that's what I liked. I liked pop music. So.

BeatToRapOn (40:43)
Yeah.

LANCE (40:48)
Um, you know, it, it, you know, so now 2025, I don't think the record would come out. I think we're going to sign, I'm going to sign a universal or a division of universal in a record would come out 2026, you know, but I would, I would love, I think at some point, um, it would be cool to meet his only daughter, his only kid, you know,

BeatToRapOn (40:48)
Yeah, and that's cool.

LANCE (41:15)
And she's Australian. She lives in Australia. I think it would be cool that somebody current today Lance romance. I'm not big like Jay-Z or Will Smith but the fact that I got 50 albums and I met and I knew her father and I want to make the record

BeatToRapOn (41:15)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

LANCE (41:33)
Like maybe she doesn't care, but I just think there's a respect factor that goes with it because I think the process, even with Universal saying yes, I think technically she would still have to sign off on it, right? Because the estate still has her name attached to it. But I think it would just be cool that she would see

BeatToRapOn (41:38)
Yeah.

Right, right.

Yeah, yep, yeah.

LANCE (41:59)
somebody in modern time still loves and respects her father.

BeatToRapOn (42:03)
Yeah.

Andy, yeah, I think that would be fantastic. I mean, how...

LANCE (42:07)
I could, because who

else, who else would want to do it? You would have to live my life to already know Andy. Do you understand?

BeatToRapOn (42:14)
Yeah.

I mean, how cool is that? mean, we've got to get her on the podcast. I I'm based in Australia anyway, so we've got to somehow connect with her and yeah, get together. I think it's a great idea. And you know what, if it was my dad or I think anyone's parents who, you know, were quite popular and things like that, I just feel like it's a real honor.

LANCE (42:34)
And it was, yes.

BeatToRapOn (42:44)
to their name, right? It's just, it's just beautiful. It brings something into the modern era. ⁓

LANCE (42:46)
Right?

Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. And the fact that I'm 59. So the timeline when people do the real research, the homework, the touring, me being in Florida, the Def Jam tour, the raising hell tour, him being in LA, they'll realize it's the truth. Like the sequence, because of my age, the timing and people, you know, could see it is because

It's not like I'm gonna get a big chip on my shoulder. Like in order for me to like Andy Gibb, you had to actually like Andy Gibb. It's not like I'm gonna, it's not like it was like ⁓ rappers wanted to sample James Brown. You're familiar with James Brown, right? All the rappers want the James Brown record.

BeatToRapOn (43:25)
Andy Gibb.

Yeah, absolutely. He's awesome. Wow,

feel good. Sorry about that. I said to break it down.

LANCE (43:43)
There you go. No, no, it's

okay. But you get the point. So for me to say, I want an Andy Gibb record, that's different. Who wants an Andy Gibb record? I do. I love Andy Gibb. I'm right, because that was the thing too. A lot of people don't know this. Andy Gibb was such a good looking guy. And he was so smooth that I wanted to be the rap version of him.

BeatToRapOn (43:47)
Yeah.

Lance Romance, baby. That's it.

Right.

LANCE (44:10)
And so that's how my name Lance romance stuck. Cause I was like, if I could be smooth, I want to be like that guy. You know what I mean? So that was, that was, he was cool. That was, he was like the first stud that was cool. You know, anyway, that's, that's my Andy Gibbs story. God bless the dead and his family. I love Andy Gibbs. You know, I always pray.

BeatToRapOn (44:10)
That's so cool.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's cool.

Yeah.

God bless the dead.

LANCE (44:35)
You know, for a soul and, you know, it'll be great. ⁓ And I just think doing that record over and putting it on, it would have to be on Capitol Records, which is through Universal. It would just do it justice. I wouldn't want to try to do it in the independent and not really give it its flowers. As they say, give it flowers, you know? ⁓ I want it to be right, especially, and I think the cool part is I'm from marching band and no instruments.

BeatToRapOn (44:55)
Yeah, yeah.

LANCE (45:02)
I believe from what I heard, his daughter is a music teacher in Australia. So that would be kind of cool that, you know, that she knows music, I know music that she teaches. That's cool. Cause how many rappers are really musicians like that in that sense, you know?

BeatToRapOn (45:09)
Right.

That's definitely cool. Yeah.

We should all get together. I'd love to help. I do. do. Yeah, classically trained. Yeah.

LANCE (45:23)
And you play too. You are your musician yourself, right? So yeah, that's amazing.

And who knows, maybe with me, you and her, we have a jam session or something.

BeatToRapOn (45:37)
Let's do it. That'd be cool. That's so good.

LANCE (45:40)
I need

to, I need to get my passport and come there and just do a show there.

BeatToRapOn (45:48)
that would be so good if like, can sort everything out on this side. ⁓ Yeah. Whatever you need. ⁓ Yeah. ⁓ no, that would be really good actually. ⁓ let's, ⁓ so I'm just, I'm just thinking like, there's just so much we can talk about and, know, we just talked about Andy Gibney and counter. It's just such a beautiful thing. And, you know, ⁓

LANCE (45:54)
Yeah, that would be great.

BeatToRapOn (46:12)
It's just such a shame that the world's lost him, right? And thank you for sharing that. And we'd definitely love to get together. just off the back of that, you what about, what about we start talking to the fans about, know, what's next then for Disco EP, you know, ⁓ maybe we can start talking about that, you know, when you're planning to release it, what's your timeline, you know, what's your vision around it.

LANCE (46:17)
Yeah

Ye- Yeah

would love to do the two videos, ⁓ Wanna Be Your Everything and Shadow Dancing. I would love to do the videos in Australia. think, right, I think it would just be a beautiful tribute. I think that would be so great for his daughter to see ⁓ somebody honoring her father from this generation.

BeatToRapOn (46:47)
Come down, baby.

It would be.

LANCE (47:04)
You know, I'm mixed black, Puerto Rican, Italian. He's Australian. Like the combination of the, the melting pot of culture is with, is something unique that I think, I think the world needs it. I think it would also be a breath of fresh air. You know what I mean? I think that because everything sounds the same.

BeatToRapOn (47:15)
Yeah.

I love that.

LANCE (47:29)
and you get a guy from the Bronx raised in Texas, the guy from New York raised from Texas wanting to do the Australian Andy Gibb over, that concept is just crazy. You know what I mean? And doing it, maybe the remix or something with violins,

BeatToRapOn (47:30)
Yeah.

Crazy, yeah.

Yeah.

lost him again.

BeatToRapOn (47:54)
think that would be amazing to do it down in Australia. The videos that would be, that would be incredible.

LANCE (48:03)
would love to do

it and have her give me ideas that she might've wanted to see in her dad's music, especially cause she's creative. So to create with her the video, with the style, it would just be like an honor. I think the industry would love that. It would be like a tribute because who else would do that?

BeatToRapOn (48:13)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

LANCE (48:29)
Do you understand? no one else, I don't know another rapper. First of all, he would have to be in his 50s to know Andy Gibb. Do you understand? So it wouldn't be like none of these young guys that do mumble rap, you know I mean? They wouldn't, and they would have never met him anyway. You would have had to have been in that time.

BeatToRapOn (48:30)
I love that, yeah.

Yeah, right. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So what's Andy's daughter's,

what's Andy daughter, what's her name? Do you know her name? We need to get in contact with her and get all this happening. I'm super keen. Yeah. Yeah.

LANCE (48:50)
⁓ I'm not sure what, with the, yeah, we got it. We got to get this. We got to get this happening. The

other thing, the other thing that, that I wanted to get to tell you was that by doing disco music early on, Andy also remembered that

I was doing salsa music, because you know have about 10 salsa albums. So I am, I'm you know, part Puerto Rican. So I got a lot of Latin salsa music. So, so the, the, the salsa music,

BeatToRapOn (49:17)
yeah.

He's going again.

He's out again.

LANCE (49:28)
gonna send you the Sensation album.

BeatToRapOn (49:30)
Yeah.

LANCE (49:31)
I'm gonna email it to you tomorrow.

BeatToRapOn (49:32)
Okay, love it, love it.

LANCE (49:33)
the five tracks, the EP,

so that way you can hear it. And when you hear my cadence on the, you know, I wanna be your everything in Shadow Dancing, you're gonna see how well this worked together, you know? That's what it is. You know, like when Run DMC did the record over, you know, when Run DMC did the record over with Aero Smith, Walk This Way, do you remember this record, Walk This Way?

BeatToRapOn (49:45)
Yeah.

can't wait. That's going to be awesome.

Yeah.

That was huge. Walk this way. Yeah.

LANCE (50:01)
Okay. Yes.

So I wanted, so they collaborated. So I always wanted to collaborate that with Andy Gibb, like that type of collaboration, you know? You know, cause that was new back then, but you know, so, but anyway, we got the record. So there you have it. Any more questions? What do you want to hear and go?

BeatToRapOn (50:13)
Yeah, that is so good.

So Lance, that is incredible. I can't wait for that to land in the inbox. We're going to get at all going. It's all going to be happening in Australia. ⁓ Is there any final things you want to shout out to your fans or any final things you want to say before we wrap up the podcast?

LANCE (50:22)
Yes.

Yes.

Yes, I like to say I'm going on a tour. The first quarter of 2026 is called Lance Romance 50 albums, one show girl tour, 50 albums, one show girl tour. Go to my website, go to my Instagram. I'm going to do about 27, 28 dates. And then I like to take it to Australia, bring it overseas.

BeatToRapOn (50:59)
Yeah, that is awesome. And is there anything else dropping after that or through that? Or if anyone wants to get in contact with you before that drops and you start kicking off the tour?

LANCE (51:11)
⁓ I think the only thing I'll be doing is getting ready to start promoting my Christmas album called Christmas on Ice. Because it's going to be holiday season. I have a Christmas album called Christmas on Ice.

BeatToRapOn (51:19)
⁓ boom!

Awesome.

Hopefully we can get you back on a podcast like maybe mid December and we can talk about Christmas on ice. That would be epic.

LANCE (51:29)
Christmas on Ice. It's house music. It's Christmas meets house music and rap.

BeatToRapOn (51:30)
Cool.

I love that shit. I love it. just want to shout out to all the fans. Thanks so much for listening.

Lance, we are very blessed to have you on the podcast and we'll catch you on the next one. See you later.